So you’re going to say nothing about other churches anymore, right? That presents a problem when you just have to point at yourself and say, “Look at ME! I am out-baptizing you.” Never fear, the solution is simple.

Get other people to say it and publish on your website. (Here is the original article, I quoted on a separate page in case it gets deleted.)

Do I believe these responses? I don’t see much reason to doubt them. They all sound like they are written by Kip, but then again, I sounded like Kip ten years ago. In case there was any doubt about the destructiveness of ICC discipling, here’s written proof. Did Kip really strive to equip us by discipling or did he simply tell us when and how to do things?

I heard something on TV that I could barely believe. I heard Dr. Dodd from the Westside Church preach a sermon on Worship. In his closing remarks he basically said in tears that his job is to equip, not to do everything. It echoed similar sentiments from the minister of my church that he cannot force anyone to do anything though he is tempted often. All he can do is equip.

Is it really equipping if we all sound the same?

Many of us, and that includes me, spoke the same way for so long. We sounded the same, we acted the same. We all had ‘d-times’, ‘quiet times’, ‘commitments’, ‘studies’, ‘back-burner people’, ‘kingdom dreams’ and we all overused the words ‘awesome’ and ‘flat’. (Experts among us would use both in a sentence — That was flat awesome.) That’s why it is important for those of us that are refugees from the ICoC to deliberately use different words. (We also need to use something else besides the NIV, try the HCSB or the NET translations.)

Ezra Pound also shouted “Make it new!” A better quote may be Romans 12:2.

Anywho, more good news later. For now, sorry to post an unpleasant news item first thing on Monday.